In my opinion Tim would be post the brand new goes through of your visualize so you can their webpages, and certainly will blog post one relationship to the brand new newsgroup.
Re: Wingfield Applications-of-Fingers
contacts of users, (the fresh new Wingfields had been investigated fairly well, and you will despite my personal typo toward Howard family members, I actually do have the pedigree correctly annotated here in RI) >>
I am not sure this will be a precise declaration. Really does their publication target the latest generation *prior* in order to John Russell just who elizabeth mom and dad away from E Russell who yards Sir Robert Wingfield ?
Re: ? Comyn wife away from Malise
You will find the second so you’re able to fill in a number of the gaps you inform you forthe great-grand-parents from Reginald le Cheyne. One of the primaryadditions is due to his paternal grandmother (NN on the article) havingbeen Mary de Moravia (als de- Moray), Honduran Еѕene koje datiraju sibling and you can coheiress out-of Freskinde Moravia from Duffus (her moms and dads Walter de Moravia and Euphemia ofRoss arrive less than). You’ve got the concern concerning his maternalgrandmother: I hold she is Joanna de Menteith, 2nd wife regarding Malise,Earl out-of Strathearn. This would no less than bring a close explanationfor Joanna’s daughter Helen regarding Strathearn (wife successively ofReginald ce Cheyne, the father, as well as Sir David de- Graham) beingnamed to own Helen de Menteith, cousin out-of Joanna and you may wife away from Sir ColinCampbell regarding Lochow (d. bef Will get 1343).
Regrettably, I believe discover additional gaps from inside the Muriel Keith’sancestry (pick lower than). Regarding both additions proposed towards tablesbelow, please recommend of any detailed issues, or what documentationmight mean one error detailed.
We have holes both in ancestries, but fiercely for the reason that off Reginald.To have Muriel Keith, their higher-grand-parents I show1 William de Keith d bef 12932 Barbara Seton
I am not alert to any paperwork supporting the personality with the companion since the Barbara Seton. If you have detailed any, excite recommend.
step three Alexander de Synton4 NN5 Alexander of /Fraser/ Chamberlain from Scotland d 3 Aug 13326 Mary de- Brus, Baroness /Fraser/
Sir Alexander Fraser hitched Mary Bruce (otherwise de Brus), together with a beneficial young buck John identified as ‘nepos’ regarding Robert _the_Bruce. This son was a more youthful John, not, rather than his heir. John Fraser, after lord out-of Aboyne, was the latest son away from a primary matrimony (this spouse unfamiliar; I have this on the authority off Andrew MacEwen).
step 3 Walter de Moravia (young man out of Hugh de- Moravia, and Annabela out of Fife) cuatro Euphemia out of Ross (dau. of Fearchar, initially Earl of Ross and you may NN deBrus)
5 Malise, 6th Earl away from /Strathearn/ bef 1281- d Agnes NN possibly Comyn d aft 13097 Sir John de Menteith (young buck of Walter Stewart, E off Menteith and you may
The newest consanguinity ranging from Muriel Keith and you may Reginald ce Cheyne -proven to were good-grandson from Malise, Earl from Strathearn (d.1312) – is the best evidence (if indirect) these particular a couple of individualshad one ancestor/ancestress in accordance.
We have openings in both ancestries, however, ferociously in this out-of Reginald.Having Muriel Keith, their unique high-grand-parents We show1 William de- Keith d bef 12932 Barbara Seton3 Alexander de Synton4 NN5 Alexander off /Fraser/ Chamberlain of Scotland d step 3 Aug 13326 Mary de- Brus, Baroness /Fraser/7 NN Fraser8 NN
To have Reginald ce Cheney it is sparse1 NN Cheney , 2 NN, step three NN, cuatro NN5 Malise, sixth Earl off /Strathearn/ bef 1281- d Agnes NN possibly Comyn d aft 13097 and you can 8 NN
Re: Agnes Beler
Woodford, early 15the century, inside Leicestershire. Elizabeth is actually the newest d Villiers and Agnes Beler. Now, I want to hook up Agnes to Sir Roger Beler, killed of the Eustace de- Folville, but I can not pick people facts about their. Is also individuals let?